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	<title>Comments on: Hybrid Honda Fit &#8211; 80 mpg and Under $12k</title>
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		<title>By: Derren</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-19163</link>
		<dc:creator>Derren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 17:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Both 80 mpg and $12,000 for a Honda Fit Hybrid is misleading, if you compare it to a regular Honda Fit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To compare apple to apple, let&#039;s look at a Civic Hybrid vs. Civic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;First of all, a Honda Civic Hybrid gives only 12 to 15 mpg EXTRA compared with a regular Honda Civic which has 25~35 mpg.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second of all, a Honda Civic Hybrid is more expensive than a regular Honda Civic. I would say it is about 15 to 20% higher.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;From the above comparison, we can say that the Honda Fit Hybrid would reach approximately 45 to 50 (max) mpg.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for the price, a Honda Fit Hybrid would cost ~$17,000.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&#039;s discuss if you don&#039;t agree with me.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;[edited]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both 80 mpg and $12,000 for a Honda Fit Hybrid is misleading, if you compare it to a regular Honda Fit.</p>

<p>To compare apple to apple, let&#8217;s look at a Civic Hybrid vs. Civic.</p>

<p>First of all, a Honda Civic Hybrid gives only 12 to 15 mpg EXTRA compared with a regular Honda Civic which has 25~35 mpg.</p>

<p>Second of all, a Honda Civic Hybrid is more expensive than a regular Honda Civic. I would say it is about 15 to 20% higher.</p>

<p>From the above comparison, we can say that the Honda Fit Hybrid would reach approximately 45 to 50 (max) mpg.</p>

<p>As for the price, a Honda Fit Hybrid would cost ~$17,000.</p>

<p>Let&#8217;s discuss if you don&#8217;t agree with me.</p>

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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17264</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 11:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Slamming Metros? Ha ha. We have had a Geo Metro for years, love it.  Yep, small light and cheap, you just keep talking &amp; I&#039;ll just keep grinning...(at the gas pump).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slamming Metros? Ha ha. We have had a Geo Metro for years, love it.  Yep, small light and cheap, you just keep talking &amp; I&#8217;ll just keep grinning&#8230;(at the gas pump).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Saper Agency</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17238</link>
		<dc:creator>Saper Agency</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This would sure give the Toyota hybrids a run for their money and put them into their place&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would sure give the Toyota hybrids a run for their money and put them into their place</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Andriko</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17170</link>
		<dc:creator>Andriko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry... not to disappoint, but the VW Wundercar was getting 265mpg years ago - and it wasn&#039;t hybrid... the first hybrid was developed in 1904... the auto industry should be properly called &#039;the banking cartel&#039;... they&#039;re not giving us anything for our money, that&#039;s for sure... save your money, take public transit, ride a bike, work from home... when the auto industry gives us a car that can fly... then I&#039;ll be impressed... in the meanwhile... I&#039;ll keep my money out of the hands of these snake oil salesmen...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8230; not to disappoint, but the VW Wundercar was getting 265mpg years ago &#8211; and it wasn&#8217;t hybrid&#8230; the first hybrid was developed in 1904&#8230; the auto industry should be properly called &#8216;the banking cartel&#8217;&#8230; they&#8217;re not giving us anything for our money, that&#8217;s for sure&#8230; save your money, take public transit, ride a bike, work from home&#8230; when the auto industry gives us a car that can fly&#8230; then I&#8217;ll be impressed&#8230; in the meanwhile&#8230; I&#8217;ll keep my money out of the hands of these snake oil salesmen&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dan Lauber</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17159</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 22:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As the owner of a 2001 Honda Insight (which really does get 60-70 mpg highway) and a 2007 Honda Fit Sport, I feel extremely confident that this report is way off on the price and gas mileage of the hybrid Fit. Based on all I&#039;ve read, the Hybrid Fit will cost $1300 to $1800 more than a gas-only Fit. Given our experience with the Insight and Fit, I&#039;d offer an educated guess that highway mileage in a Fit Hybrid will be around 60-65 mpg (up from the 39 mpg we get on the highway with our Fit) with city mpg around 40 (unless Honda switches to the Toyota approach of starting with the electric engine, which I freely admit is a better approach). I only hope that the hybrid Fit has the Insight fantastic digital instrument panel rather than the Fit&#039;s dismal analog panel.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the owner of a 2001 Honda Insight (which really does get 60-70 mpg highway) and a 2007 Honda Fit Sport, I feel extremely confident that this report is way off on the price and gas mileage of the hybrid Fit. Based on all I&#8217;ve read, the Hybrid Fit will cost $1300 to $1800 more than a gas-only Fit. Given our experience with the Insight and Fit, I&#8217;d offer an educated guess that highway mileage in a Fit Hybrid will be around 60-65 mpg (up from the 39 mpg we get on the highway with our Fit) with city mpg around 40 (unless Honda switches to the Toyota approach of starting with the electric engine, which I freely admit is a better approach). I only hope that the hybrid Fit has the Insight fantastic digital instrument panel rather than the Fit&#8217;s dismal analog panel.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John Paulson</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17149</link>
		<dc:creator>John Paulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good for the world, bad for the driver? EMF emissions in hybrids can be dangerously high (NYT, 4/27/2008 article.) Manufacturers claim they are safe, and while most folks claim they aren’t concerned with EMF, houses under power lines generally sell for less and take longer to sell.  While we wait for market forces and/or the EPA to step in (hahaha, c’mon sheeple, I’m kidding), entrepreneurs are figuring out ways to help you out.  So, after plunking your young’uns in the backseat of the hybrid for weeks on end, you can comfort them with this website: www.imtooyoungforthis.org.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;fondamyhonda, you may well give at least a kidney for that kind of mileage.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good for the world, bad for the driver? EMF emissions in hybrids can be dangerously high (NYT, 4/27/2008 article.) Manufacturers claim they are safe, and while most folks claim they aren’t concerned with EMF, houses under power lines generally sell for less and take longer to sell.  While we wait for market forces and/or the EPA to step in (hahaha, c’mon sheeple, I’m kidding), entrepreneurs are figuring out ways to help you out.  So, after plunking your young’uns in the backseat of the hybrid for weeks on end, you can comfort them with this website: <a href="http://www.imtooyoungforthis.org" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.imtooyoungforthis.org'>http://www.imtooyoungforthis.org</a>.</p>

<p>fondamyhonda, you may well give at least a kidney for that kind of mileage.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Julie Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17147</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am glad to hear they are making a hybrid Hoda Fit.  That is a great car and the Hybrid version will be even better.  I finally ordered a Prius but was trying to hold out until they came out with plug-in hybrids.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The problem with the hybrid numbers on MPG is that there is a tendency for them to be overinflated.  It got so bad that Consumers Report had to invent their own hybrid MPG testing system which gave results much lower than the Government got; the number on the sticker.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also don&#039;t think a new Honda would sell for that low unless they are planning to sell those cars almost at a loss to fulfill some kind of union obligation, as happens with Mazda3s.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to hear they are making a hybrid Hoda Fit.  That is a great car and the Hybrid version will be even better.  I finally ordered a Prius but was trying to hold out until they came out with plug-in hybrids.</p>

<p>The problem with the hybrid numbers on MPG is that there is a tendency for them to be overinflated.  It got so bad that Consumers Report had to invent their own hybrid MPG testing system which gave results much lower than the Government got; the number on the sticker.</p>

<p>I also don&#8217;t think a new Honda would sell for that low unless they are planning to sell those cars almost at a loss to fulfill some kind of union obligation, as happens with Mazda3s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Wpg Auto</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-17105</link>
		<dc:creator>Wpg Auto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 00:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If it can be done it is rather amazing
Still its the overall cost of the car - with total costs of service and maintenance included that matters not the initial price
1 % fault failure rates on a large number of cars results in a lot of cars and a lemon label
Imagine 2 - 5 %
Here in Winnipeg Canada ( where the temperature in the winter goes down to - 40 degrees C)  fully half of the taxis are now hybrids
I cannot think of a more demanding test and worse situation for testing cars and their reliability
The cars are on the road 24 /7 in demanding runs, lots of idling etc , often no time for service , or get it on the road quickly Shinder.
On top of that the very cold minus 40 Mantioba Winnipeg winter temps add the final part of the acid test for endurance&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it can be done it is rather amazing
Still its the overall cost of the car &#8211; with total costs of service and maintenance included that matters not the initial price
1 % fault failure rates on a large number of cars results in a lot of cars and a lemon label
Imagine 2 &#8211; 5 %
Here in Winnipeg Canada ( where the temperature in the winter goes down to &#8211; 40 degrees C)  fully half of the taxis are now hybrids
I cannot think of a more demanding test and worse situation for testing cars and their reliability
The cars are on the road 24 /7 in demanding runs, lots of idling etc , often no time for service , or get it on the road quickly Shinder.
On top of that the very cold minus 40 Mantioba Winnipeg winter temps add the final part of the acid test for endurance</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fondamyhonda_com</title>
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		<dc:creator>fondamyhonda_com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 03:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;80 mpg!!!!!! I&#039;d almost give a kidney to get that now.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>80 mpg!!!!!! I&#8217;d almost give a kidney to get that now.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: epos</title>
		<link>http://www.dogberrypatch.com/archives/hybrid-honda-fit-80-mpg-and-under-12k/#comment-16721</link>
		<dc:creator>epos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please get them to ship this car over to the UK, we are paying around $12 per gallon and you cant buy a hybred car for under £13,000 approx $22,000&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please get them to ship this car over to the UK, we are paying around $12 per gallon and you cant buy a hybred car for under £13,000 approx $22,000</p>]]></content:encoded>
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